MovableType Successfully Installed on Windows XP

Hi,

I just want to be the first to comment on my own weblog. Please use this tool to tell me what you like and what you don't like.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on September 11, 2002 8:54 PM

Thanks for your feedback and congratulations with getting Movable Type running on XP - very cool (I haven't seen it done before :-)

Happy blogging!

Posted by: andersja (external link) on September 11, 2002 9:48 PM

Hi andersja,

Thanks for your reply to my queries at http://www.jacobsen.no/anders/blog/archives/2002/09/11/trillian_10_trillianpro_also_features_rss_newsreader.html. The most exciting thing is to hear something from the reader. I am the same. Thanks for reading.

Regards
Jian Shuo Wang

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on September 11, 2002 10:03 PM

I will follow your steps to migrate my Movable Type installation to Windows 2000 Server from FreeBSD.

But I will go deeper: I'll try to set it up for use a Microsoft SQL Server database, instead of MySQL.

Regards from Argentina!

Posted by: MaTu (external link) on September 14, 2002 2:14 PM

MaTu,

It is good that this guide can help you. I am going to add some details to this log so it can be of help for more readers.

It is very good to port it to SQL Server. Good luck. Please also share your steps after you have done so. I'd like to add your link to this page later.

Good Luck.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on September 14, 2002 3:11 PM

I am delghted to learn that my humble site inspired you to start the same. You know, I myself was inspired by other site.
Good luck and all the best to you!

Geo

Posted by: Geo (external link) on September 14, 2002 8:45 PM

Geo,

I'd like to say thank you again for your site. Did you remember our conversation on the ban of Google in China one week ago? You were like a news reporter. It is the first time I found the MovableType and more importantly, you inspired me that I can be a report too and tell others about what is happening. Take the Google's case, I am in China and I can monitor everything closely, while others may need to read news to get update. That is the main reason I begin to create my own blog. I am very luck to have known you.

Jian Shuo

Regards
Jian Shuo Wang

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on September 14, 2002 9:51 PM

Hi Jian;

Ni Hao Ma?

I managed to install Moveabletype into free server as my own server doesn't support Perl/PHP/CGI. I don't know much about programming stuff and to be able to install Moveabletype without a major glitch is a feat to me. :-)

I have a question, why did you install perl into your Windows XP? I mean if my webserver do not support Perl/PHP/CGI, I still be able to install it into my local PC and rerouted the path/result to my webserver?

I'm lost here.

Thanks.
http://nsalleh.netfirms.com/blog/

Posted by: nsalleh (external link) on September 15, 2002 11:49 AM

Hi nsalleh,

Thanks for writing comments on my blog. Congratulations that you installed MT to your server successfully. I noticed that your log is hosted at netfirms.com. Does netfirms provide all the requirements for MT? I never tried it yet.

Regarding the question, "why did you install perl into your Windows XP", it is a very good question. Why? First of all, I just installed broadband in my house with high speed and real and relatively static IP address. So I have a good reason in host my site on my own PC. Since the OS on my PC is already Windows XP Professional, after I decided I am going to use MT, I went to web and found ActivePerl and all the required component. I am lucky that I setup everything with one hour. It is also a feat to me. (I learnt the word "feat" from your post. I didn't know this word before - English is not my native language.)

I am not sure about the mean of the sentence "I mean if my webserver do not support Perl/PHP/CGI, I still be able to install it into my local PC and rerouted the path/result to my webserver?". What is "rerouted the path/result to the webserver"? Let me guess. I tried to host the executable on my own machine and FTP the result static page to my server (http://www.wangjianshuo.com), which is much stable than my PC. I asked about this function in MovableType forum (http://www.movabletype.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=3d84690967e6ffff;act=ST;f=14;t=7880), but it seems no result yet.

Jian Shuo Wang

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on September 15, 2002 7:04 PM

hey,
I followed you instructions and everything worked fine. However, now when I want to REBUILD the site after posting, I get this error.

Writing to 'C:\inetpub\wwwroot\blog\archives\000002.html' failed: Opening local file 'C:\inetpub\wwwroot\blog\archives\000002.html' failed: Permission denied
==============================================
Another question I have is that I want to setmy blog so that I can type loaclhost/blog and be able to see my blog; right now I have mt-files in wwwroot\mt (with cgi) and static files in wwwroot\blog. Should that work?

Thanks.

Posted by: pagal on October 22, 2002 1:55 AM

Hi Pagal,

Thanks for writing comment to my blog.

First of all, I need to disclaim that
a) I am not familiar with Perl, as I stated in the first sentence of this blog entry.
b) I may not be able to help you to troubleshoot this strange problem since I just used the steps listed and it works like a charm. So I didn't met this problem.

After you read the disclaimer, I will try to give you my immediate suggestion.

1) Please make sure c:\inetpub\wwwroot\blog folder is there before you try to rebuild. Based on my experience (may not be right), MovableType will NOT create folder for you. You need to create the folder "blog" by yourself before rebuild. I believe this is the most possible cause of the problem.

2) Have you tried use the default path, that is, use c:\inetpub\wwwroot to store the archives?

3) If the step 2 does not work too, please check the Security setting of c:\inetpub\wwwroot. For troubleshooting propose, set it to be EVERYONE Full Control (Right click -> Properties -> Security tabe -> Add -> Everyone -> Check Full control -> OK) If this works, it should be security reason. Please note that setting everyone full control to the folder is only for testing propose. Remain this setting may cause security holes of your server.

If it still does not solve the problem, I suggest you post the question into MovableType's Support Forum at http://www.movabletype.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi . Maybe somebody there has encountered the same problem as you and can help you.

Jian Shuo

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on October 22, 2002 2:27 PM

Hi,

Followed your installation instruction.. the only thing missing is the installtion of the Db_File from perl.

ppm> install DB_File

and it all works out.

Thanks,
Jeff

Posted by: Jeff (external link) on November 12, 2002 6:30 AM

Wow. Great point Jeff. I will add this one to the steps now.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on November 12, 2002 8:55 AM

I have been trying to install MT on my Windows 2000 server for a very long time. The biggest problem came from trying to install the DB_File module!

After much searching, I came across this website: "http://misterhouse.net/install.html", which mentions a similar difficulty installing the db_file module. The webpage walks through the installation of activeperl 5.8 (or higher), and describes the following steps:

> cd \perl\bin (modify to match your directory)
> ppm
ppm > repository add http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/cgi-bin/ppmserver?urn:/PPMServer58
ppm> install GD
ppm> install DB_File

Now, I've tried typing "install DB_file" many times without success, but I successfully installed DB_File after adding the repository and installing the GD module first.

I love movable type, and hope that this post will help others who have experienced problems with ActivePerl and DB_File

-Samuel Wan

Posted by: Samuel Wan on January 4, 2003 12:52 PM

Thanks! looked for help everywhere for DB_File and thanks for you, all went well.

Posted by: Gabriel (external link) on January 18, 2003 4:01 AM

talked too soon, actually ppm says all went well. DB_File 1.806 successfully installed...

BUT

mt-check.cgi continues to say DB_File is NOT installed!!

and if I try to go to mt-load.cgi I get

===
Unsupported driver MT::ObjectDriver::DBM: Can't load 'C:/Perl/site/lib/auto/DB_File/DB_File.dll' for module DB_File: load_file:The specified module could not be found at C:/Perl/lib/XSLoader.pm line 83.
at C:/Perl/site/lib/DB_File.pm line 251
Compilation failed in require at C:\val\mt\lib/MT/ObjectDriver/DBM.pm line 9.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at C:\val\mt\lib/MT/ObjectDriver/DBM.pm line 9.
Compilation failed in require at (eval 3) line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 3) line 1.
===

any info would be appreciated.
thanks!

Posted by: Gabriel (external link) on January 18, 2003 4:17 AM

hello

i had the same problem
check if libdb.dll (active perl usually puts it in C:\Perl\bin)
is in the system path.
On XP(and maybe NT) go to settings->control panel->system->advanced
click Environment variables and append
;C:\Perl\bin (or whatever in your case)
to _system_ (not user) PATH
apache does not run scripts under your name by default

i hope it helps

DB_File windows DB_File.pm libdb.dll "Can't load"

Posted by: Evgeny on January 19, 2003 9:26 AM

evgeny, I appreciate your reply but I cannot find that dll anywher ein the activeperl install. the path looks ok but I still have the same problem. can you please verify the dll name?

thank you!

gabriel@motorush.com

Posted by: Gabriel (external link) on January 22, 2003 10:44 AM

the way I got around it was to revert back to Activeperl 5.6.0
this is the only way I was able to make it run.

the blog is running at: http://val.dorta.com/

thank you.

gabriel@motorush.net

Posted by: Gabriel (external link) on January 31, 2003 1:20 AM

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Posted by: dsafa (external link) on February 18, 2003 4:27 AM

Hi Jian Shuo,

Good to have you here, sharing knowledge and provide advice.

One question, can MT support Chinese language ?

Thanks.

Posted by: Meison on February 28, 2003 1:29 PM

Everythink is perfect
The Instalation was completed without any errors
Thank You
my web site is under construction now but i promise that I`ll put a link to this site in mine.
Thanks for all

Posted by: Dodi (external link) on March 7, 2003 8:11 AM

Just to let you know this guide has saved me many hours of banging my head against the wall. I have just one question how did you get it listed on google?

Posted by: Matthew on March 8, 2003 4:39 PM

Matthew,

Thanks for letting me know that my site helped you. It is a great gift for me too.

To get a site listed in Google, sometimes it is very simple - create a useful website and Google will find you, eventually.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on March 11, 2003 6:56 PM

Hi all,
I'm now installing MT on WinXP/Apache2/Perl5.8/MySQL3.23.55 and have a few questions. Everything but MT is setup and working properly.

First, what exactly is DataSource in mt.cfg supposed to refer to? That is not very clear from the documentation.

Also, I'm having trouble with DB_File and DBD::MySql, like many others have. DB_File seems to have all the correct files and directories in the right place, but I get the standard error (Can't load 'C:/Perl/site/lib/auto/DB_File/DB_File.dll' for module DB_File...) when I load mt-load.cgi (or mt-load.pl in my case).

Is there some configuration script to run for DB_File, or some config file setting to edit to get it to work?

Thanks!

Posted by: Byron on March 17, 2003 9:15 AM

Hi again,

I just got it all installed and setup properly. Thanks to Jian Shuo Wang and Deane Barker for the info on your sites and various postings on the subject (at MT help forums too).

It took me two whole days to get it running on WinXP/Apache2/Perl5.8/MySQL3.23.55. The problem I had was that for some reason, mt-check.cgi (mt-check.pl for win32) and mt-load.cgi (mt-load.pl for win32) did not work when called from a web browser (http://localhost/mt/mt-check.pl, http://localhost/mt/mt-load.pl).

I finally figured out that they ran just fine from the WinXP command line, and that I had DBI::mysql and ImageMagick configured just fine the whole time. Actually I did get a popup error that Perl56.dll could not be found when running at the command line, but I just ignored it b/c I'm using Perl58.dll, and b/c it otherwise worked correctly and returned the correct results in the command line.

Anyway, once I ran "perl mt-load.cgi" from the command line, I could then browse to http://localhost/mt/mt.pl and that worked.

Also, adding e:\mysql\bin to WinXP PATH was necessary too.

Thanks again for the help everyone.

PS - I'm running MT on localhost just to experiment and learn, I don't have any plans to put it on a public site anytime soon.

Posted by: Byron on March 17, 2003 12:46 PM

I tried the configuration for iis/smtp. However when I try to send notifications, I get the following error: Error sending mail (Sending mail via SMTP requires that your server have Mail::Sendmail installed: ); try another MailTransfer setting?

ANy idea what I could've done wrong?
(Win2k/ActivePerl 5.8.0/MT2.6.3/iis/smtp)

-c-

Posted by: Christy on March 19, 2003 2:06 PM

Jian, I installed Moveable Type sucessfully. Can you let me know how to have a Comments link on my Weblog, I can't have other people to post comment on my weblog.

Posted by: Nitesh on April 4, 2003 2:04 PM

Nitesh, try these steps:

In MovableType configuration console:

1. Click on "Blog Config" on the left toolbar.
2. Click Preferences
3. Scroll to the last check box "Allow comments" on by default? . Check it.
4. Click Save to save the configuration.

I remember it is not checked by default. Hope it helps.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on April 4, 2003 7:15 PM

Holy crap is installing this thing hard.

I did the instructions on this website (by the way - great website).

I had to install Service Pack 3 on my Windows 2000 box in order for the latest MSI from Active State to work.

I loaded all three Perl Modulues successfully. I edited the mt.cfg file per this page and I referenced a directory that was not there - c:\inetpub\wwwroot\mt\db which I created and then I got the login page but there was nothing in the DB directory.

That's where I had to run from a command prompt - Perl mt-load.cgi and voila - my db directory how had 36 files which look like they belong there.

Now I can run http://192.168.199.129/mt/mt.cgi and I get a login screen but I don't know the username or password - I have been looking at manuals and have not found it yet - what is the default password for MT?

Thanks.

Rob

Posted by: rob (external link) on April 7, 2003 9:09 AM

Alright - I missed a section, after running mt-load and creating the database - I see the default username and password - Melody/Nelson.

However now when I enter those two pieces in to the login screen it does not go anywhere.

Any thoughts?

Rob

Posted by: rob (external link) on April 7, 2003 9:29 AM

Installing MT onto XP from scratch (including PERL and Apache).

Forgive the length of this message, here is a start-to-finish account, including getting past the DB_FILE error.

First I had to get perl and apache, searching around perl.org I found a set of different Perl possibilities:
http://www.cpan.org/ports/index.html#win32

I selected the following because it contained a complete installation of the latest perl and apache with modules.

Perl/Apache/mod_perl/mod_ssl/php for Win32.
Perl-5.8-win32-bin.exe, consisting of Perl-5.8.0 and Apache 2.0.43

ftp://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/pub/other/
I grabbed the whole directory: Perl-5.8-win32-bin
and then followed the joining instructions to create a 37MB file

this has a Perl, Apache2 and lots of modules

Running Perl-5.8-win32-bin.exe unzippled into three directories, Perl, Apache2, and Readme's

following the readme i put perl and apache2 directly under c:\

then I ran the perl config accepting all defaults:
C:\Perl\bin> perl configure.pl

Add the location of the perl bin/ and the Apache2 bin/
directory to your PATH.
(append ";C:\perl\bin;c:\apache2\bin" to PATH

set the following environment variables (these are under control panel: system: advanced: environmental variables)
HOME=C:\
TERM=dumb
NAME=your_name_without_spaces

Apache didnt't behave itself from the command line (as listed in the readme) but in the Apache2/bin directory there is a file: ApacheMonitor.exe which allows you to turn on apache on and off as a service (and defaults it appears to setting apache to run automatically; you can change this in Services)

Then i edited the apache config file:
C:\Apache2\conf\httpd.conf

(I had to use wordpad first to open some of these 'text' files, add a space somewhere and save to take care of the little squares that showed up on notepad)

I made sure the following were set:
ServerRoot "C:/Apache2"
DocumentRoot "C:/Apache2/htdocs"

Then I could point my browswer to
http://localhost/

and see that apache was running.

Now to MT

I unzipped/tarred it to
MT-2.63-full-lib
somewhere

then I made the following directories:
C:\Apache2\htdocs\mt-static
C:\Apache2\htdocs\blog
C:\Apache2\cgi-bin\db

then copied from MT-2.63-full-lib
styles.css
/docs
/images

into C:\Apache2\htdocs\mt-static

the rest I copied into
C:\Apache2\cgi-bin\

Then I edited C:\Apache2\cgi-bin\mt.cfg
with the following lines:

CGIPath http://localhost/cgi-bin/
DataSource C:\Apache2\cgi-bin\db
StaticWebPath /mt-static/

[I suggest rebooting at this point]

Now for the tricky stuff. I tried to access
http://localhost/cgi-bin/mt-check.cgi
as directed, and got a horrible DB_FILE not detected

(thanks to some webpages) it turns out that you can run this program from the command line:
c:\apache2\cgi-bin perl mt-check.cgi

and it finds DB_FILE

so then I ran
c:\apache2\cgi-bin perl mt-load.cgi
and that worked too

but still I couldn't get
http://localhost/cgi-bin/mt-check.cgi
or
http://localhost/cgi-bin/mt.cgi
to work from the browser. Still the same DB_FILE problem

Finally I REBOOTED, it all worked!
enter Melody and Nelson as password to get in, then change these

I'm too tired to figure out if I had rebooted where I suggest above whether it would work.

Anyway, I hope this helps, let me know if i missed something.

Posted by: Jom on April 11, 2003 2:02 PM

Jom, very nice job! Although I haven't try to follow all the steps you listed, but it seems complete. Thanks for sharing with us. Anyone who didn't solved the problem using my steps, please try Jom's. Let him and me know by posting after this thread.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on April 12, 2003 12:07 AM

Only one thing I really can't understand: why isn't this clear info on the MT website ??

It enabled me to get MT running within half an hour, thank you !

Posted by: Pierre on April 20, 2003 2:31 AM

Just posted a link to this resource. Curious, do you have trackback enabled?

Thanks for taking the time to document it. I hope to be following your lead later this week!

Posted by: Kevin (external link) on April 23, 2003 12:48 AM

Kevin, I have enabled TrackBack to this entry. I don't why most entries on this site allows trackback instead of this one. Thanks for linking to Wangjianshuo's blog

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on April 24, 2003 12:15 AM

I'd like to add my thanks to the many I'm sure you've already received. Your page made it very easy for me to get MoveableType configured on my Win2K machine. If this link hadn't showed up when I was searching the MoveableType site when I was trying to find installation help, I'd probably still be stuck.

Posted by: Scott A. Lawrence on May 6, 2003 4:52 AM

MT needs to update and get this info, it is so clear

Posted by: net flix (external link) on May 15, 2003 4:58 AM

Thanks very much for psoting this information. I would have been stuck without it.

Posted by: Phil Allwood on May 16, 2003 4:42 PM

Thank you so much for posting this information!

Very clear and it all worked for me on the first try.

Posted by: kegz (external link) on May 29, 2003 4:08 AM

This is very helful...I was wondering if any of you have come accross this error in trying to run mt-check, or any cgi script from local browser. I am using IIS. Any info would be greatly appreciated, Thanks!!

=====================================
CGI Error
The specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a complete set of HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:

Backslash found where operator expected at c:\inetpub\wwwroot\mt\mt-check.cgi line 1, near "Perl\"
Backslash found where operator expected at c:\inetpub\wwwroot\mt\mt-check.cgi line 1, near "bin\"
syntax error at c:\inetpub\wwwroot\mt\mt-check.cgi line 1, near "Perl\"
"use" not allowed in expression at c:\inetpub\wwwroot\mt\mt-check.cgi line 7, at end of line
BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at c:\inetpub\wwwroot\mt\mt-check.cgi line 20.

Posted by: Jeff Neuenschwander on June 11, 2003 4:54 AM

Jeff, I have no immediate idea about the error since I didn't encountered the error. But it seems that the source code of the MovableType is modified. As the first line, it should be something like

use /bin/perl/;

Check your page. According to the error message, it may be some backslash (\) in the string, while it should all be forward slash (/).

Check if it is the case. If so, change them back to /

I am not sure what will cause the change in the line.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on June 12, 2003 9:43 PM

Thank you so much for posting this information. The documentation is severly lacking in the Win32 department and this page did the trick. I could not have done it without you!

Posted by: bob jones on June 18, 2003 1:25 PM

Hi jian shuo,

This is an excellent resource, thanks!

So I had many _many_ a problem. The one that your site didn't cover regards permissions.

Using Apache and Active State Perl, mt-check.cgi would not find the DB (same errors listed on this page with the same symptoms like it works from the command line, etc.) Some investigation showed my @INC was including the right paths.

Finally I noticed my permissions on my c:\Perl\site\lib\ directory were, in UNIX speak, 700.

If you have cygwin installed:

cd c:\Perl\
chmod -R 755 */
chmod -R 644 *.*

or right click and set the security of the directory making sure they SYSTEM group (or whoever apache is set to run as) can see it.

Hope this helps. Thanks again.

Posted by: ayman (external link) on June 28, 2003 8:47 AM

Very nice tip ayman! Thanks for sharing!

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on June 29, 2003 3:06 PM

Just to let everyone know, this also works with IIS6 on Windows 2003.

Great site, Jian! I wouldn't have been able to set this up without it!

-jeremy

Posted by: Jeremy (external link) on July 9, 2003 4:39 AM

Thanks Jeremy! Congratulations for your new site.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on July 9, 2003 9:12 AM

Great info here. Very useful. I wanted to a add a note that it is possible to run movabletype with mysql on Windows as well - I a musing Windows 2000 with SP4.

You can get mysql for Windows from the mysql.com website and if you install PHP as well (www.php.net) you can set up phpMyAdmin to make it easier to manage. Once that is set up and you have mysql running, you will need to run the following:

ppm> install DBD-mysql

so that you can use mysql with movable type.

From there, you need to follow the movable type install guide to set it up to use mysql and you are set.

Posted by: Jon (external link) on July 22, 2003 1:28 PM

Thanks for the share, Jon.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on July 23, 2003 2:16 PM

Thanks for sharing, Jon.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on July 23, 2003 2:16 PM

Hey
I started a new blog,I desperately want help in settingup movable type blog.I tried to figure out but it still seems uphill task for this Algorithm's Guy.

Do visit my Blog.:)

Posted by: Evolutionary Intelligence (external link) on July 25, 2003 11:51 PM

I'm note sure if anyone has commented on this, but I ran into a problem where DBI::mysql wasn't installed in perl, so MT couldn't talk to mySQL.

Info on how to get this fixed is at:
http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/ActiveState_Perl.html

Great resource! Thanks!

Posted by: Scott on August 15, 2003 2:56 AM

i just want to install the perl language into my computer. i just want to compile and run a perl program. i don't understand about this cgi and iis stuff? please help. i have a windows xp.

Posted by: eric on September 4, 2003 4:47 AM

Hello. I just want to thank you warmly for putting this guide on the net. You are now the main reason for me being able to publish a new weblog on innovaiton in Denmak shortly (it is currently running on a server behind my firewall).

Sincerely,
Andreas

Posted by: Andreas Johannsen (external link) on October 8, 2003 6:09 AM

:-) Great!

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on October 9, 2003 4:49 PM

A word of warning to people!

Be very careful using DB_File. They change their file format often, and I am currently getting screwed by that fact.

I am moving my blog from one server to another. The problem is that the old server has DB_File 1.73. The new one has 1.806. The two are incompatible with each other. To make matters worse, I can't find the 1.73 package that I used (it's no longer on ActiveState).

In case you're curious what you're using:

PPM> query DB_File

If you do go the DB_File route, save a copy of the ActiveState MSI and a copy of the DB_File package. Trust me; you don't want to be where I am now.

Posted by: steve (external link) on October 12, 2003 2:41 AM

I followed Jom's instructions (thanks a billion for that) and APAche, Perl, and all the modules for Apache seemed to install fine. I ran all the required scripts for MT and with mt-check.cgi it says I have everything installed fine for MT to work; however, when I try to access Movable Type it gives me a " 500 Internal Server Error" page. It seems like everything should work, but when I go to http://localhost/cgi-bin/mt.cgi I don't get the login screen like I should. Any suggestions? I think it may be a permissions thing, but I'm not completely sure.

Posted by: Josh on October 30, 2003 1:30 PM

Thank you for the help for the DB_file aspect.

Posted by: harlugo (external link) on November 16, 2003 3:35 PM

ok so the first part of the tutorial helped me install perl and execute the install from ppm> does anyone know how to install this on windows running apache? i'm lost as to what i do next and no forum or website lists how to do this... arrr so agrivating... pls help

Posted by: mikeyb (external link) on November 19, 2003 6:10 AM

I am afraid I don't have experience to install it on Apache. Other readers may help.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on November 19, 2003 1:31 PM

jom or who ever else can anser this... i followed jom's directions up above. few exceptions though, i had to make my 'cgi-bin' folder c:\apache2\htdocs\cgi-bin because i have to use :8080 with my cable provider to access the cgi-bin dir for this step

'CGIPath http://localhost/cgi-bin/' - jom
'CGIPath http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/ - me

i get the internal server error like the guy above me in the article..... any suggestions??? remember that i'm running this off my cable at home and have to use :8080 for localhost:8080 to acces htdocs! ... please i swear if someone gets this to work i'll write the most indepth tutorial for windows so ppl don't have to go through this shit!

Posted by: mike on November 20, 2003 9:55 AM

hi,

thanks for the info. I am going to move to MovableType and going to use your tips. But hey, it seems like XP Home does not come with IIS. Did you use XP pro or how did you manage?

thanks,
chandru

Posted by: Chandru (external link) on December 1, 2003 9:55 PM

You are right. Windows Home does not come with IIS. You have to use Windows XP Professional Edition for the IIS Feature.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on December 2, 2003 9:24 AM

Dear Jian Shuo Wang & Friends,

This page of yours has been very helpful to me in the past. Using the information you have provided here has helped me set up moveable type on my windows xp server running IIS 5. In the past i've successfully installed perl and configured it for MT a few times. I've even setup php & mysql to run another blogging system called 'pmachine'. However, I've recently wiped my primary drive and reloaded all of the needed programs to restart MT but for some reason for the first time I am having a very difficult time installing perl! I know this isn't particulary a perl forum, but i've read all of the documentation and searched everywhere for an answer, uninstalled and attempted to re-install perl 5.6 & 5.8 to no avail and i was wondering if anyone that posts to or reads this page could make a suggestion? I keep running the MSI installer and it says it is successfully installing perl (which it has done in the past) but perl just does not load? Have i gone totally insane or senile? I've asked activestate support but haven't heard anything back yet. I would be very grateful to anyone who could point me in the right direction again! Thanks!

Posted by: Jason (external link) on December 3, 2003 8:47 AM

What do you mean by "but perl just does not load?" Does it mean that you cannot run perl scripts or you cannot run perl CGI? If it is the former, it may be the environment parameters' problem. Try to locate PERL.exe and try to run pathto\perl.exe yourperlscript.pl to see if it works.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on December 3, 2003 9:02 AM

When I first installed Perl successfully earlier this year, all I needed to do was run the MSI Installer and everything worked perfectly. Now any version I try to install and run the Perl Package Manager from I get this message:

###################################################
'perl' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
You do not have Perl in your PATH.
###################################################

I had never seen this message before. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling both current versions but nothing has worked yet. I tried reading the documentation and searching for answers on the internet but I have found nothing to remedy this yet. It is probably a simple solution I am overlooking? Right now I am currently uninstalling it for the 3rd time and I am running out of ideas. Thanks!

Posted by: Jason (external link) on December 3, 2003 11:02 AM

You should not have the PATH environment variables set.

You should first find out your Perl.exe path - where you installed the Perl.

Start -> Right click My Computer -> Properties -> Environment Variables -> Click Path under System Variables -> Append the path to your PERL.exe in the Path Value field.

http://www.perlbill.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3337 may also be of help

This should work.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on December 3, 2003 3:39 PM

Thanks for the advice. I'm not sure if that was the problem, but after I re-installed ActivePerl 5.6.1 build 633 it started working. Now the only problem is that mt-check.cgi hangs:

###########################################################
Movable Type [mt-check.cgi]

SYSTEM INFORMATION:

Current working directory: c:/inetpub/wwwroot/mt
Operating system: MSWin32
Perl version: 5.6.1
(Probably) Running under cgiwrap or suexec

CHECKING FOR REQUIRED MODULES:

HTML::Template (version >= 2)...
HTTP/1.1 502 Gateway Error
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.1
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:58:07 GMT
Connection: close
Content-Length: 186
Content-Type: text/html

CGI TimeoutThe specified CGI application exceeded the allowed time for processing. The server has deleted the process.
###########################################################

Sometimes it gets a little bit farther than the "HTML::Template (version >= 2)..." statement. I have set my CGI script timeout to 999999 but that doesn't fix it. Any further advice would be extremely welcome! Thanks!

Posted by: Jason (external link) on December 5, 2003 12:21 PM

Thank you!, this really helped me get over some of the hurdles I came across when installing MT on IIS6 using mysql.

Posted by: Eric on December 20, 2003 1:45 AM

An oddity which I'm sure is easily solvable... thus very annoying.

I have everything installed perfectly using win xp pro and db_file on IIS. I can log in, edit, manage etc but I am unable to 'view' my site... or any other site I have made.

I have entered the .cgi file extension with the perle.exe but...

I keep consistently getting a 403 permissions error. I have tried to make sure all the permissions on the blog folder are fully writable 'scripts and executables' but I'm missing something. Anyone have any idea what other permission I need to set? Jian could you share with me your settings? I appreciate any help... this whole blog idea is fantastic for documentation. Now I just need to get over this last hump.

Posted by: mace on December 31, 2003 4:11 PM

Hi Mace,

the 403 error typically appear not because the Read/Write permission. It is typical the hint that you didn't set your "Default Page" correctly.

If you browse a sie or folder without a file name, for example, http://home.wangjianshuo.com IIS will look for the default page under that folder and return the file. In my site, I set it to be index.asp, index.htm. So http://home.wangjianshuo.com and http://home.wangjianshuo.com/index.htm are the same for me.

If you name your default page as, for example, index.htm while you only have default.htm in that folder, the IIS will return 403 error - "you don't have permission to browse the folder", since a default page is not found.

So here is my suggestions:

1. Find out your default page setting in IIS.
2. Either change your default page in IIS to be the default page of your blog, or change the output of the default page in MovableType. I believe you know how to change the IIS settting. The movabletype setting is at Template -> Main Index page.

Good Luck!

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on December 31, 2003 4:34 PM

Mike - I know what you havnt done!

you havnt set apache to listen to that port yet.

you have to do that in the config file - called httpd.conf on the PC.

the line you are looking for is:
Listen 80
you want it to listen to other ports too, so you can do this:

Listen 80
Listen 8080
Listen 8001

etc.

Ive had some issues with this not working exactly as I expected... it is freeware you know ;)

Anyway, I defeated the issue by using virtual hosts. If you need info on that, send me an email, with the subject "need help with virtual hosts!"

Posted by: Bender on January 13, 2004 4:13 AM

Josh/Mike,
If you're still having problems-- make sure the first line of the .cgi perl scripts are setup for windows (to where your perl path is). For example replace
'#!/usr/bin/perl' with '#!c:/perl/bin/perl.exe.'
Hope that helps.

Jian Shuo --- kudos - great site for getting mt running on win32 quickly.

Thanks,
Larry

Posted by: Larry A on January 27, 2004 1:34 PM

Larry, thanks for the tips. Although I believe Windows will use the configuration of IIS and the file extension (.pl) to determine the interpreter to be used, it may be of help in certain circumstances.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on January 28, 2004 8:30 PM

Hi Jian,

Thanks so much for the information posted on your site. I've "almost" installed MT on my XP Pro server. I say "almost" because I can access mt.cgi but the default username: Melody password: Nelson does not allow me to log into MT. Is there any way of resetting the default passwords? I have full access to all the files.

Posted by: Ben on February 1, 2004 11:36 AM

Ben, maybe the database is of the wrong format after you upgraded your driver. Check if the following page can help:
http://home.wangjianshuo.com/archives/20031027_invalid_login_on_my_movabletype.htm

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on February 1, 2004 2:37 PM

hello,
i have followed this tutorial up to this point:

In Inetmgr.exe, right click MT folder and select Properties. Click Create button in Application Settings area on Directory tab. Now we have created a seperate application.

i can't find the location of Inetmgr.exe on my windows xp home computer. is it possible for MT to be installed on xp home?

please e-mail me at mikeandjen@filipak.com.
thank you!
~jen

Posted by: Jen on February 1, 2004 11:50 PM

Jen, you cannot install MovableType onto your Windows XP Home since Home Edition of Windows XP does not support IIS (the web server). You can try Windows XP Professional.

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on February 2, 2004 3:34 PM

my cgi timesout :(
i have installed perl then put all the files on mt in a folder called mt in wwwroot, put cgi in iis, and then wrote http://localhost/mt/mt.cgi but after long time it simpl gets timeout, wat to do, by the way i m on winXP.

Posted by: Waqas on March 18, 2004 3:30 AM

and my cgi in IIS is as
"E:\Program Files\perl\bin\perl5.6.1.exe"%s"%s"

Posted by: Waqas on March 18, 2004 3:33 AM

hey jian
I have followed the same steps to install MT on Windows Xp but, was not able to follow the following steps-

Configure IIS for Perl and perl script with .CGI extension to work

Configure MT to work on my site
* Changed the CGIPath to http://home.wangjianshuo.com/mt/
* Changed DataSource to c:\inetpub\wwwroot\mt\db\.

Posted by: Abhishek on March 20, 2004 9:57 AM

When I try and configure the .cgi extension to be read by perl. I click the configuration button and nothing happens? Does anyone have any clue what's going on?

Posted by: Angel on April 27, 2004 11:36 AM

Greetings from Canada.
First, let me say that everyone here is a Genius!!!!
I started this as a 'learning experience' and apart from a bump here (mostly my errors) and there IT ALL WORKED! I now have MT installed, and driven by Apache2. I am not quite sure what to do with it all, but I now have the option at least.
Many thanks to all who contributed to this site, and of course to the creator - Jian Shuo Wang ... forgive the pronunciation - tsia tsia Nin LoaShr!!!
I hope to contribute my own insights as time passes.
Thanks again.

Posted by: Dave. on April 28, 2004 4:20 AM

...Greetings from Canada again...
A solid Thank you to Jom .... it was your model that I followed almost entirely.
Thanks again.

Posted by: Dave. on April 28, 2004 4:24 AM

Hello from Canada.
This is for the people running XP Home on their machines. This link will give detailed instructions on how to configure your machine for IIS. (Warning - not for the faint of heart.;)

http://www.webthang.co.uk/tuts/tuts_server/iis_xph/pippo_xp.asp

I have not tried this directly, but I have experimented with the files on my work station....all seems to be in order.
Good Luck All.

Posted by: Dave. on April 29, 2004 12:01 AM

More greetings from Canada....

Another perspective on IIS on XP Home.....

http://www.15seconds.com/issue/020118.htm

-Luck!!!

Posted by: Dave. on May 5, 2004 2:31 AM

great tips! I was able to get MT to run on Windows 2003 Server running IIS and ActiveState's Perl.

However, I can't seem to get the TrackBack feature to work - my TrackBack links give 404 errors, i.e. try this one: http://voip-blog.tmcnet.com/cgi-bin/mt-tb.cgi/17

I believe I need mod_rewrite which is only for Apache web servers.

I've Googled like a lunatic for IIS equivalents, (which there are a few), but I don't want to waste time installing it if it isn't going to be a "plug and play" proposition with MovableType.

Suggestions?

Posted by: Tom Keating (external link) on May 13, 2004 4:55 AM

Forgot to include my main blog page which you may need to see for troubleshooting my TrackBack issues with Microsoft IIS.

http://voip-blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/ or http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/ (both work)

Wow, this site definitely saved me time configuring MT on an IIS Server. Again, nicely done!

Posted by: Tom Keating (external link) on May 13, 2004 4:58 AM

Thank you, sir. You just made installing MT a LOT easier on me.

Posted by: Sean on May 17, 2004 10:18 AM

I got as far as Inetmgr.exe. I right clicked the MT folder, selected Properties, clicked Create button in Application Settings area on Directory tab.

Then this is the part I don't understand:
Click configure and check the program to parse .pl files.
It is C:\program files\bin\perl.exe "%s" %s for my server.
Note: The following changes can be changed on website level, no applicaiton level. Click Add and enter the same parsing program (C:\program files\perl\bin\perl.exe "%s" %s for my case) and enter .cgi to Extension text box. Click OK.

Posted by: Don (external link) on July 6, 2004 9:41 AM

I just finished the installation. Thanks. But, when I login to MT I get a message from Apache shown below.

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/ on this server.

Apache/1.3.27 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80

How do get permission to access the cgi-bin?

Thanks for any help anyoone can give me.

Posted by: doug on July 22, 2004 1:07 PM

It is by desigin. Just go ahead directly to thee MT script, like http://host/cgi-bin/mt/mt.cgi

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on July 22, 2004 1:21 PM

hi how are you i am having a problem running perl on my xp machne. when i use the command perl and the file name i need to run it will tell me that the perl is not a rcognized command(internal or external).

Posted by: jimmy on November 20, 2004 8:43 AM

It is because you didn't put PERL.EXE into your PATH environment variable. Navigate to the directory where PERL.exe resides and you can run it, or add it to %PATH%

Posted by: Jian Shuo Wang (external link) on November 20, 2004 10:39 PM

I have to thank you it is working now. Do u give any lessons in programing in perl. i have a big file i need to extratc some information from it. Is there a way to do it in perl.

thank you

Posted by: jimmy on November 21, 2004 8:08 AM

I have to thank you it is working now. Do u give any lessons in programing in perl. i have a big file i need to extratc some information from it. Is there a way to do it in perl.

thank you

Posted by: jimmy on November 21, 2004 8:09 AM

I am trying to install Movable Type on Win XP Pro, with IIS5 and ActiveState Perl 5.6.0. I have everything working so that mt-check.cgi comes up, but it does recognize that DBD-mysql is installed, although Perl claims that it is. Is there something that I am missing?

I installed DBI and DBD-mysql using the following commands:

ppm> install DBI
ppm> install DBD-mysql

and everything went fine.

Posted by: rafi on December 19, 2004 12:52 PM

I'm running MT 2.661 on IIS myself. Used your site to assist with the install.

1 problem. I get email notifications for comments posted, but I don't get any email notifications when I post a new blog entry. I added two email addresses to the Notification list within the MT interface to see if they get notified of news posts, but it doesn't work.

I'm using the following in mt.cfg (SMTP not Sendmail)

MailTransfer smtp
SMTPServer 192.0.0.4

The IP address is a LAN IP and it points to a different server from the blog server.

Doesn't make sense that email works for comments and not new blog posts.

Any ideas?

Posted by: Tom Keating (external link) on December 28, 2004 11:42 PM

DOH! I just realized that MT 2.661 doesn't automatically send out notifications. you have to manually send one out. Well that sucks. Is there a plug-in or mod to v2.661 that will auto-send an email with excerpt + title of blog to anyone in my notify list?

Posted by: Tom Keating (external link) on December 28, 2004 11:50 PM

hey this is great - I hit the same problem on an win2003, IIS, ActivePerl set up and all works fine now that I've installed the missing DB_File module.

It would help if they mention in the installation instructions that there's this mt-check.cgi file that tells you what's missing from your perl!

k

Posted by: kennyboy on February 9, 2005 7:42 PM

Hello,
I could add/delete/modify entries on my Movable Type 3.15 on my Windows XP/IIS.
But when I want to upload file, first it pops a window for selecting file, it's ok, then I click "Upload", it shows a error page says dns error. Why?

Here is the log of IIS,
xx.xx.xx.xx, -, 2005/3/15, 10:01:01, W3SVC1, WENWEI-2, xx.xx.xx.xx, 437, 319, 2150, 200, 0, GET, /mt/mt.cgi, __mode=start_upload&blog_id=1,
xx.xx.xx.xx, -, 2005/3/15, 10:01:01, W3SVC1, WENWEI-2, xx.xx.xx.xx, 0, 448, 139, 304, 0, GET, /mt/mt.js, -,
xx.xx.xx.xx, -, 2005/3/15, 10:01:01, W3SVC1, WENWEI-2, xx.xx.xx.xx, 0, 465, 139, 304, 0, GET, /mt/images/topnav-logo.gif, -,
xx.xx.xx.xx, -, 2005/3/15, 10:01:01, W3SVC1, WENWEI-2, xx.xx.xx.xx, 0, 463, 139, 304, 0, GET, /mt/images/topnav-bg.gif, -,
xx.xx.xx.xx, -, 2005/3/15, 10:01:07, W3SVC1, WENWEI-2, xx.xx.xx.xx, 468, 58004, 1184, 200, 0, POST, /mt/mt.cgi, -,

No action after the last line.

Any idea?

Posted by: markc on March 15, 2005 10:18 PM

Great posting....finally got my blog up...now I just have to figure out how to customize it!

Posted by: Sanjay Patel (external link) on March 30, 2005 11:36 PM

Hi Jian,

I think i like your site, hope you will grant me to post, park and listen to every useful conversation you guys have.. i don't know if MT could help..i have a private server build by a traitor friend, mu and ro.. The story is quite long so i just say, i have a problem with him. He always attack my server and, i just need a little advice if it's ok with you guys..

i am using windows xp too but i used apache as my webserver, php and mysql for my Ro or ragnarok online private server, mssql for my mu server..

security settings:
remote access: disabled
firewall: enabled
6 open ports:
1st open port for my ragnarok login server
2nd open port for my ragnarok char server
3rd open port for my ragnarok map server
4th open port for my mu online login server
5th open port for my mu online connect server
6nd open port for my http
firewall software used:
blackice & analogx

attacks:
2 times victim in sql injection..
i don't know if he could access my pc coz after he injected my
mssql, he changed my last backup to my previous backup
which is several days ago...

question are:
how to find a hole?
how to close that hole?
what possible software i need to use to protect my server
from being hacked?
what is port knocker?
can port knocker help?
what is the possible promblems,
is it open ports? or
exposed dns?
how could i hide my ports or dns/domain?
other say trojan can open ports, how?
is it possible that they used trojan agains my server?

i hope i could get some help from your site Jian...

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Posted by: Teen (external link) on October 23, 2005 6:39 AM

movabletype.org is filltered in my country, do you know any other sites to download it?

Posted by: Ali on November 4, 2005 7:49 PM

Respected sir,
I have more importent question,
1. when i install windows xp professional cd in our system.
2 after that go to start button ,and go to control panel .
3. in control panel have more option , but i choosed Add/Remove program window in that add / remove windows component in that in the wizard window i checked IIS,then i got IIS in wizard window after clicking in IIS ok button, i could not get Inetpub folder in my harddrive.

Please tell me the actual step.

Thanking you
pappu

Posted by: pappu kumar jaiswal on November 18, 2005 8:09 PM

hi.
i want to study perl from starting. can u send the startup notes and what is the usage of the PERL

tanks

Posted by: vejo on March 2, 2006 1:44 PM

I'm able to write and run programs from the command line interface successfully.
1. Can you please clarify me how does these programs can be related to web based
applications?
2. How should the HTML and .PL files be intergrated?
Can you please send me a sample program....

Posted by: Anil on June 20, 2006 3:30 PM

How should the HTML and .PL files be intergrated?
Can you please send me a sample program....

Posted by: ניו יורק (external link) on August 27, 2006 10:27 PM

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study jianshuo write blog .
I will study and work at shanghai. so need learn all about shanghai now.

Posted by: xiaojun (external link) on September 21, 2006 11:54 PM

Thank you so much for posting this information!

Very clear and it all worked for me on the first try.

Posted by: Windows XP Tips (external link) on March 2, 2007 9:41 PM

Hello,

Need a small help. I was configuring Apache 2.2.4 in windows XP. One funny thing is that, I am unable to see the Administrator User account. With the account 'Ashok(having Admin authority), I have installed Apache's .msi executable. It did not give problem. I too have configured httpd.conf file as follows:

ThreadsPerChild 250
MaxRequestsPerChild 0

ServerRoot "C:/Program Files/Apache Software Foundation/Apache2.2"
Listen 80

All the default modules as usual(I did not paste here to reduce length) and then...

ServerAdmin mrpashok@gmail.com
ServerName Ashok:80
DocumentRoot "C:/Program Files/Apache Software Foundation/Apache2.2/htdocs"

Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
Order deny,allow
Deny from all
Satisfy all

Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from localhost Ashok

DirectoryIndex index.html

Order allow,deny
Deny from all

ErrorLog logs/error.log
LogLevel warn

LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" com
bined
LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common

LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\" %I
%O" combinedio

CustomLog logs/access.log common

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "@@ServerRoot@@/cgi-bin/"

AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI
AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl
Order allow,deny
Allow from localhost Ashok

DefaultType text/plain

TypesConfig conf/mime.types
AddType application/x-compress .Z
AddType application/x-gzip .gz .tgz

SSLRandomSeed startup builtin
SSLRandomSeed connect builtin

After this setting in httpd.conf, I was trying to browse http://localhost/cgi-bin/(or index.html),
I get the below error...

You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/ on this server.

Any help is appreciated.

Posted by: Ashok on April 28, 2007 9:18 PM

I want to make application not autorunable & not to show in setup process

Posted by: Bheerendra on June 9, 2007 1:07 AM

i am using windows xp too but i used apache as my webserver, php and mysql for my Ro or ragnarok online private server, mssql for my mu server..

security settings:
remote access: disabled
firewall: enabled
6 open ports:
1st open port for my ragnarok login server
2nd open port for my ragnarok char server
3rd open port for my ragnarok map server
4th open port for my mu online login server
5th open port for my mu online connect server
6nd open port for my http
firewall software used:
blackice & analogx

Posted by: Bernard (external link) on April 10, 2008 6:36 AM