Living Cost in Shanghai (2009 Edition)
By Jian Shuo Wang on 2009-03-09 20:56 · Living CostI have published a series of articles on Living Cost of Shanghai (2002 Edition, and 2007 Edition). Let me continue to update this pure unofficial one-man effort index of the living cost of this city. It is not only a annual update, it is in the new background of global financial crisis, and I try to analyze its impact to living cost in Shanghai.
Please note: 1 USD = 6.80 RMB as this article is written. (It was 7.75 on January 22, 2007)
What is Not Changed
Since more of the information included in my Living Cost 2007 Edition didn’t change too much, please refer to the original article for most of the items. I will only update the changed items.
Transportation
On Transportation, the Living Cost 2007 Edition is still up to date: 2 RMB for most buses, 3-6 RMB for metro ride (3 is most possible), 2.1 RMB/km starting from 11 RMB (including 3 km), and 2 RMB single way ferry…
You may also check out the Daily Cost of a Tourist article for tourist specific transportation cost.
Drink
Coke:
A can of Coke now is 1.60 RMB, higher than 2007. For example, this online store sells 24 cans 355ml at 38.6 RMB. Most restaurants charges premium for serving coke - 5 RMB to 8 RMB is normal price.
Beer:
Let me also give you example. A can of Tsingtao Beer (355ml) costs 3.8 RMB
Food
Most of the items in my 2007 Edition is still valid today. The price range is from 10 RMB to 100 RMB per person.
There is something new today. There are more and more fast food chain appearing on the streets. Just like KFC, McDonald’s, they offer standard food, nice location, clean environment, but much more expensive than local noodle shop. Their food is at 20-30 RMB range.
House Rental
There is a big change since the 2007 Edition. You can safely add 50% to all the numbers I gave in that report.
The premium housing price has been up to something like 15,000 - 45,000 RMB per month (for nice places in Xujiahui area for a family).
The normal price also raises to 3000-5000 RMB.
Room sharing ranges from 800-1500 RMB in good areas. (Check Baixing.com Room Sharing to get a sense of room sharing. Disclaimer: I am the CEO of Baixing.com)
Others
Most of the other items are not changed since 2007 too much (where are the increase of CPI, Consumer Price Index?)
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I wonder how much a person needs to earn to be able to afford that type of rental. How much they pay for a new recruit teacher in Shanghai without experience ???
On the salary side, it seems to be running to another extreme - with so many people without a job, the salary level is getting flat (if not negative) this year.
how about the cost of buying an apartment? I read that Shenzhen is down about 30%. What's the story in Shanghai nowadays? Last year I remember that a place near Minsheng Lu on Line 6 was about $250k USD (1.5m rmb?) for a 2 bedroom. What would it be like now?
xie xie!
I haven't renegotiated my rent though out of sheer laziness :)
So at least around here in luwan/xuhui district the rental market for larger flats is struggling. Of course if you want to buy the place it's a completely different story. The average price for flats like mine have gone from 2mil to 3.5mil. Though even there it's supposedly a buyer's market, except you have to negotiate just as you would in your average Chinese market, start by subtracting 1 million from the asking price.
For us,i think i should save 3 years for a small second hand house(50 m*m)
Another things are shopping goods. No doubt, the trader may decide whatever price they want to sell, and it is the freedom right of the buyer to buy or not to buy. However in China, for the same particular product, eg. 5 different shops at the same street can quote a price ranges from 1000 yuan to 50 yuan. And surprisingly, you can buy this same particular product (made in China) in Singapore or Malaysia for only 30 yuan !! Sometime I pity the Chinese in China too..
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Deborah
Thanks,
Sara
I'm planning to move to Shanghai january 2010. I've been searching about Sanghai and I would appreciate to have your help. The company that I will work for is located in Pinghu. Can you tell me a nice place for a young couple + pet to live in shanghai ? If possible, somewhere easy to go to Pinghu.
I tend to go to Shanghai on Jan 2009 to study language. I want to find sharing room mates in downtown apartment, would you mind to give me range cost to rent an apartment?
To CAL: it seems that on 10 000RMB/month, no housing included, it is possible to live ok, as local people. So in your case, 20 000+ housing, it seems very good especially if you plan to buy your food in local markets etc..
I wish I had that opportunity as well!
Is RMB 27,000 /mth (after tax) ok pay?
Thanks!
If anyone knows of any suitable apartments please let me know on this forum.
Thanks all
Suggest you post real estate questions on shanghaiexpat where there some industry professionals are active.
Your comments and input will highly appreciate...
thanks for taking time to share your experience. By the way the room sharing web site is in chinese! Any possibility to get one in french or english? thanks.
Be aware it does not take into account differences in social securities, premiums and that kind of stuff.
Use the Big Mac index as it represents a lot of differents things.
There are better mechanisms.
But this one is good for it's simplicity.
http://www.oanda.com/currency/big-mac-index
For example USA/China ppp rate 3.50
Earning 2000 USD in china would compare to earning 7000 USD in the USA
Earning 2000 RMB in china would compare to earning 2000/6.834*3.5=1025 USD in the USA
Roughly said to compare RMB to USD is 2:1 2000 RMB is equivalent to 1000 USD
How easy it is to change job in China? I belong to IT profession.
Kindly help!
Thanks so much for your help!
I got chinese the govenmentscolarhip to study at there
Please let me know about it because i'm look forward to hear that.
thanks so much for your help
I know that rent is the biggest expense but would pay for an apartment that is about the same level of comfort as what I would get in the USA. So far from what I can see in pictures, a 2-bedroom would run about 14,000 RMB per month, which is what I pay in equivalency in the USA.
My monthly salary is 100,000 RMB before tax (tax is 45%). therefore only 55,000 RMB after tax. Is this a decent salary?? I am still negotiating this amount, should I ask for a little bit more??
If you are an expat, can you please give me some advise??
thanks
I'm in the UK and will be interviewed for a job in Shanghai shortly, as an experienced software engineer, for a large-ish company (US & Europe based).
I have no knowledge or experience of Shanghai ( or China ) and don't know how much salary to expect for this kind of job and would appreciate typical ballpark figures. Thanks.
I plan to stay there for maybe 3 to 5 years, experience the culture, see the sights and so on before considering returning to Europe.
Cannot wait to get a reply