Relocating to Shanghai

This article is to answer questions from my friends who are planning to relocate to Shanghai from Beijing. Most of the tips only apply to people born and grow up in China, especially north China.

My Own Story to Relocate to Shanghai

Shanghai is an amazing city for local resident, for foreigners who comes from U.S or Europe, but it is definitely a strange and awful city for people from north China. I strongly believe so.

In the first two years I came here (1995 and 1996), I was so frustrated to live in the city. It is not easy to get used to it.

1) The irregular road. In most cities in north China, like Beijing, Xi’an and my home town Luoyang, streets are either N-S or E-W and the street intersections is always 90 degrees, like a chess board. It is totally different here in Shanghai – streets winding through the city and seldom can I find a complete strait road. Later, I found even the newly designed roads in either Pudong Area or in the Jiaotong University Min Hang Campus, were not straight. The design drew two big cycles on the blank area and constructed the campus based on the circles. This was completely unacceptable for me, who came from traditional Chinese cities. Actually, how the road was designed had nothing to do with my daily life, but this kind of unfamiliarity definitely made my home sickness worse.

2) The Smallest Big City. As one drives into Reno, Nevada there is a sign saying, “Reno, the biggest small city in the world”. Shanghai give me the feeling that it is the smallest big city in China. Shanghai was definitely the biggest city in terms of population (Chong Qing is now the biggest in figure), it still seemed so small when I just came here. They call building square, while my concept of square was something like Tian An Men square – the largest square in the world. Roads were narrow, dishes were small on the table, and people were so sensitive to very minor price change. Everything seemed smaller in size compared to cities I lived in.

3) The weather. Shanghai is near the sea and it is hot and dry in summer, cold and rainy in winter. This is completely different. In north China cities, like Luoyang, it is rainy and hot in summer. I didn’t expect rain in winter which made it colder. I never experienced colder winter than Shanghai it may be the north most large city without warming facilities. We kept the windows open for fresh air at night in cold winter since there is no difference when closing the windows. Everything was cold. Keeping the windows closed didn’t help to warm up the wet air inside the room.

4) The people. People in Shanghai were so business oriented and process driven, so I felt cold and hard to fit into the city at the very beginning. I don’t want to talk about it more to keep away from the flaming discussion – it happens everywhere on almost any BBS if someone posts anything about the Shanghainese…

So the famous scenes Huahai road, the Bund and the city were meaningless to me – I felt myself as a tourist, not part of the city at that time. In the deep part of my heart, I was so eager to escape from the city – as soon as possible.

I Get used to Shanghai in One and Half Year

I talked with many friends just came to Shanghai, and I never found anyone love Shanghai in his/her first year. However, after one and half year, I hopelessly fall in love with the city. This happened to many of my friends who original hated the city too.

After several years, I am so used to the city. Whenever I leave the city, I felt very uncomfortable. Here are some examples.

1) The 7×24 Stores. When I was in Chengdu or Beijing, I missed the 7×24 convenient store like LAWSON, Lianghua so much. I wandered on the streets after 11:00 PM and found it was not easy to buy some drink. The city went dark.

2) The bus and taxi. The public service like taxi, bus, gas, electricity… are very good in Shanghai. I believe many people were either impressed by the clean and unified Shanghai taxi or impressed by the dirty and small taxi in many cities. With the effort to prompt public transportation, the air conditioned buses looked very nice and comfortable in Shanghai. This changed a lot during the last eight years. When I just came here, so many people are pushing each other to get on board a crowded bus – it was true but recently, buses are no long crowded with the operation of the metro and light railways.

3) The over-careful people. This was the reason I didn’t like Shanghai – People in Shanghai was so sensitive to the small money. When I used the whole year to get used to this style, I found them easier to deal with. If you take taxi in Shanghai, and the meter shows 141 RMB, you need to pay exactly 141 RMB – including the 1 RMB, or you give them 200 RMB and they give you 59 RMB as change. In Beijing, taxi driver typically will ignore the 1 RMB and only ask for 140 RMB. I am comparing the styles only to point out the difference, without judgment. In fact, the accurate, cold and professional behavior in Shanghai made life easier. Taking the taxi example, the clear agreement between the passenger and driver will cause no argue, while if the price is not accurate, people will be uncomfortable if some driver charges 141 RMB – in which situation, people will say “the drive looks like a Shanghainese…”

Besides these tiny differences, the culture, the buildings, the people and everything are so wonderful, not to mention the bars, the saloons, the theaters and the museums… In conclusion, it will cost you at least one and half year to get used to the city and take longer for you to fall in love with it, if you come from north China.

If you are foreigners new to China, Shanghai will be the city that you can easily get used to, since Shanghai originated from western culture and are more similar with western cities than any other part of China. If you first visit Beijing, the culture shock will be huge. Do you agree?

Suggestions for Relocation

If you change your job and relocate to Shanghai, here are my suggestions:

First, Check my article The Living Cost in Shanghai

In addition, the transportation cost should be about 4 to 6 RMB. Most buses cost 2 RMB (air conditioned) or 1-1.5 RMB. Metro cost 3 RMB (for most trips). Double the price and you get 4 – 6 RMB, which will be 180 RMB per month. If you take taxi, average taxi fee should be 20 RMB (about 6 km).

For apartment, 1000 RMB to 1500 RMB should get a nice apartment for two persons in downtown Shanghai.

For food, Shanghai may be more expensive on food since it is not easy to find cheap food like Beijing – 10 RMB per meal is the bottom line. Typically it costs 15 RMB per meal.

Regarding working time, it is common practice to work from 8:30 to 17:30 or 9:00 to 18:00, including one hour break time. Typically, it is not possible to go back home during the break.

If you concern about Shanghainese – the language, don’t worry. I live here for 8 years without be able to speak Shanghainese and I still feel good and respected. My personal judgment is, people older than 40 with salary less than 1500 RMB tend to speak Shanghainese and hate people from outside Shanghai. For young generation, people with university education or with high income, they are very nice to people from outside Shanghai.

So good luck in Shanghai!

Crime and Beggars in Shanghai

I feel guilty that I have promised Maria to answer her questions about critical issues of living and working in Shanghai as a foreigner Shanghai.

Hello, yeah sure i will explain what i mean with critical issues, i mean things like crime in the city and security issues, official days of holidays per year in shanghai, the oppeness from the local people toward foreigners and things like that. thankyou very much for taking the time to answer me and giving all this information.

By Maria

My frequent commentor Nick also posted just now and asked about crime situation in Shanghai.

Would you be able to comment on crime in the city? I read alot its bad in Shanghai. However I always feel very safe. Compared to America it is probably very safe so the perspective is different.

By Nick

Well. It seems to be a topic that most people, especially expats, are concerning regarding Shanghai. Let me share my experience.

Shanghai is Safe

I don’t have the exact number such as crime rate to support my statement, but Shanghai is regarded as one of the safest city in China. You can easily find girls walking alone on the street as late as 1:00 AM or even later. It is one of the indicator of the crime level of the city – I heard from my friends in Taipei that if a girl works late in Taipei, she will perfer to say in office for the whole night instead of taking the risk to go back home alone.

Beggars

Beggars are the problem of most cities. In Shanghai, it is even worse. The most troublesome aspect of the begger problem in Shanghai is the false beggars – the group who pretend to lost job, to have no money for trip back home or no money for schools. Some even pretend to be disabled persons. Although there are still relatively low ratio of thus cases, but it really provide enough reasons for people to offer help.

I suggest to keep some coin and help the beggars, even though the problem to do so is to attract more beggers than you can afford… :-D

Here is a very intersting thread on ShanghaiExpat.com. In it, I noticed parkerfairfield‘s four simple rules for beggars.

I’ve 4 simple rules:

a) get in my way, I’ll walk OVER you . No, I won’t stomp on you, but I will not stop. I’ll keep walking. (And DON’T hold a hand out with money in it – i’ll take it…. and the aggressive as*es with a cup get the joy of picking up their change as I walk away.)

b) I’ll ONLY buy food for the ones that obviously need it. 99% of this group consists of babies/toddlers.

c) Money only is given to anyone not feeling sorry (read ‘begging’) for themself. E.g., playing music, humming, selling something (whether I WANT it or not). Other people can suck rocks.

d) I ALWAYS take whatever food was not consumed at any restaurant I’ve just eaten at, and try to find homeless to give it to … and if I can’t find someone, I leave it on top of a garbage can

Top Commenter of the Month

As always, I am going to announce the Top Commenters of the Month award for this website. The Top Commenter of the Month Award for July, 2003 goes to:

Nick 6

Kme 5

Yoda 4

Johnny 4

Gary Soup 4

Euthenics 4

Top 10 List

(Actually Top 18 since there are 10 persons posting 3 comments)

Jian Shuo Wang 87

Nick 6

Kme 5

Yoda 4

Johnny 4

Gary Soup 4

Euthenics 4

clerc 4

wufui wang 3

tatox 3

setiadis 3

pissed off 3

ace 3

Lo Yuk Fai 3

Kim 3

JOSEPH 3

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Chris Mikeson 3

History

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Shanghai Hand-Made Map

Shanghai Map

I used MSPaint.exe to draw a brief Shanghai map and marked some places to live. This map may answer questions from my friends like where to rent a house….

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The blue line in the map is Huangpu River. The black lines are bridge. The brown lines are elevated high way.

Nice weekend in Xinzhuang

It is a nice weekend. I spent the whole day at my friend’s house near Xinzhuang. We had perfect lunch and played XBox for about 2 hours, then we played table-tennis for the rest of the afternoon. The relaxing and meaningful activities are much better than staying at home – especially in the SARS situation when home is always the first chance to kill time at weekend.

Elevated highway

The elevated highway is extending ten more kilometers longer to the southwest part of Shanghai on the Humin road. The massive construction in undergoing, makeing the existing road wining through the construction site. The taxi driver operate the taxi to left and right just like in a computer game.

Below is for my reference only. No particular meaning for anybody else

Week TASKS TQ Actual ATQ

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East Radio Station Goes Online

People kept asking me what it really is to live in Shanghai. I have talked about the living cost before, now, let’s talk about radio stations.

Recently, the most popular radio station in Shanghai – the East Radio Station (ERS), begin to broadcast on the net in real time. If you haven’t decided to move to Shanghai yet, check out the radio station below and get a sense of what it feels like to be in Shanghai.

Update Online Radio Station Location Moved January 14, 2004

The website is changed for whatever reason – it was an IP address like 61.172.245.178 and not it moved to http://www.eastradio.com/netradio/. It seems those guys behind the webpage became smarter – so I assume they will not change it again. I have updated my links and hopefully, it is working now. Thanks for Wei’s reminder. – End of update –

East Radio Station – Pop Music Channel FM101.7

Image credit: Shanghai East Radio Station website.

This is my favoriate radio station. It provides the latest music. I believe it should be the starting place for you to try if you don’t know much Chinese. Most of the content are music, so just enjoy.

East Radio Station – News and Misc Channel AM792/FM104.5

Image credit: Shanghai East Radio Station website.

This is the offical news source. Current, not so many people are listening to this channel now – at least for my friends – if they turn on radio, they will listen to Pop Music channel. For me, I seldom turn on radio unless I am on a taxi.

East Radio Station – News Channel AM990

I am confused about what is the difference between this channel and the AM792 news channel, but my life always start with the AM990 news everyday when I was in the university – the big high volume speaker to start to broadcast the AM990 News program. People in Shanghai, especially those who cannot access TV and Internet (like some university students, taxi drivers, and the poor), this channel is the main information source for events like Iraq War and SARS.

East Radio Station – Classic Music Channel

Never heard of this channel and not interested in it either.

Other Channels:

Good start

It is a good start to migrate the radio to Internet. I found it is using the latest Windows Media technology. You need to have Windows Media Player 9.0 to play the sounds. You can download free of charge at Microsoft’s website.

First Finance

Two Tall Buildings Outside my Window

Grand Gateway to become taller

With two 54-storey office buildings to set up in each side of the Grand Gateway,the symbol shopping mall in Xujiahui after two years,the commercial center of Xujiahui area will be upgraded into a business trade circle,the Jiefang Daily reported today.

This building will stand outside the window of my office. It will also be seen from the the north rooms of my new house.

This is Shanghai

Shanghai has been hot in media. It is a amazing place now. Just give you some numbers about the construction.

  • 105 metro stations is under construction in the same time.
  • The recent metro line under connection(EXtension of line #3) intersects with 7
  • other metro lines under the ground.
  • 20 years ago, there is no way to cross the Huang Pu river, but now there is already
  • 4 bridges and one turnel.
  • Currently, the fifth bridge is almost complete and three more turnal is under construction.

However, it is still far behind

Although the trends are very positive in Shanghai, it still has a very long way to go in terms of the software of the city. By software, I mean something beyond infrustructure. It may be services, people’s manner, or people’s mind… Check this article. I hate to say this, but part of what he described is true, regarding the smoke and the manners.